Predicting the lottery numbers...

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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Spyrolot » Sep 11th, '09, 23:04

For those who didnt see it

Watch from 3.44 onwards for the third, and im my opinion, more fun solution;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blKQ_WtofNE
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Ush » Sep 11th, '09, 23:22

I'd bet my right arm that he didn't do what he told us he did. ;)
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Shadowwolf » Sep 11th, '09, 23:41

I think that is becoming clear as the first option has no proof here or anywhere else and he himself denies such power, two just could not work as far as I can see, and three would probably be illegal; not to mention hugely damaging to the Lotto provider.

I reckon that something is not being revealed and the omission of the bonus number in the prediction would seem to be relevant.

Just watched that vid and damn if the third option is not very plausible. Btw what is meant by 'fake ticket'?
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Ush » Sep 12th, '09, 14:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8

Maybe this is the solution. Albeit, a disappointing one.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Pandora » Sep 12th, '09, 17:14

I thought, "split screen" as soon as I saw the trick on TV, Ush, but then dismissed it out of hand, because I think of Derren Brown being cleverer than that? That could be the ultimate trick though, making out you've used some ingenious formulae, whilst all the time using an obvious split screen illusion.

Either way, I find him highly entertaining and likeable, and it got Channel Four some great viewing figures ;)
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Agrajag » Sep 12th, '09, 23:37

I didn't see the show.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8252235.stm
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"Mathematically it is complete rubbish. It is a bluff on his part," he said.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Colm » Sep 13th, '09, 21:12

So he's saying he did it by taking the average of random guesses by 24 different people? Or is he claiming they have supernatural powers to guess the lottery numbers?

I prefer the split screen idea - I too noticed the camera shake! That might have helped mask any subtleties when switching over to the "normal" screen...
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Shadowwolf » Sep 13th, '09, 21:29

If he did not take the third option then the split screen is a fairly good, if unspectacular way of doing it. Especially given that he does not appear to have ever known the numbers prior to the event, which in all honesty he could not bar a rigging. The excuse of the Beeb being legally entitled to announce the numbers first is just that an excuse; he would not have been announcing the numbers but making a prediction of the numbers he believed might come up. Given that he did not know what the numbers were, he could not have made any reliable prediction to be aired prior to them being drawn. Besides it is not really a prediction when it comes after the fact.

This also may be just a part of a greater piece of misdirection over his series of events.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Fonix » Sep 14th, '09, 23:11

I thought it was an amazing bit of TV, and even though (IMO) every piece of evidence he gave for how he done it was complete twaddle, he certainly got me and mates away from talkng about Uni, and Pot noddles and other stereotypical student things to having heated discussions, using our grey matter to really try and figure it out (we were hooked).
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Shadowwolf » Sep 15th, '09, 00:10

Welcome along Mr Fonix :)

I believe that this Friday he shall be gluing us to our seats. I do hope he shan't talk for ten minutes, then turn to us and ask did we remain seated for that time :shock:
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby The Beige Avenger » Sep 15th, '09, 10:10

Shadowwolf wrote:Welcome along Mr Fonix :)

I believe that this Friday he shall be gluing us to our seats. I do hope he shan't talk for ten minutes, then turn to us and ask did we remain seated for that time :shock:


You know... I wouldn't be suprised. ;)

But, if it is more genuine you should try to go along with it... you know, allow the mojo to do its thing
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Ush » Sep 15th, '09, 15:03

Watch the ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxovRN4AZys
And backwards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb-Jcgmy ... o_response

Notice the ad on the bus shelter, it says "stuckonmysofa.com". This website here: http://www.stucktomysofa.com/

There is another website advertised too. Look at the large bill board with backwards writing, red background. Here: http://retsehcnamdetinu.com/

The writing is "Manchester United" backwards. Like this: retsehcnamdetinu.com

What odes it all mean?
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Colm » Sep 16th, '09, 15:35

Getting back to my original point... here he is "explaining how it's done". Now if he really did employ the powers of collective thinking, then it's amazing and I want to know more. But I'm saying he didn't do that it's just everyday camera trickery or magician's trickery - not amazing or even interesting, and won't entice me to watch Derren Brown again...

That's no more amazing than watching Alan Rickman falling from the Nakatome building... But somehow surviving only to go back in time to lead the Irish Revolution!
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Doonhamer » Sep 25th, '09, 16:03

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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Pandora » Sep 25th, '09, 18:10

Shadowwolf wrote:Welcome along Mr Fonix :)

I believe that this Friday he shall be gluing us to our seats. I do hope he shan't talk for ten minutes, then turn to us and ask did we remain seated for that time :shock:


I've been in Greece on my jollydays, did you all get glued to your seats then? Are you all still there? :shock:
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Ush » Sep 25th, '09, 18:24

I did not get stuck to my seat which made me both disappointed and angry. :x

It only works with some people, evidently.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Shadowwolf » Sep 25th, '09, 23:42

I certainly did not get stuck.

Yep, it only worked on those who were particularly susceptible to suggestion and probably playing along.

Didn't produce anything like his remote viewing suggestions either in tonights session; though I did like his rational explanation for it, if nothing else it is a little education.

It all boils back to suggestion and a barrage on the senses of the outcome that he is trying to engineer, like getting that lady to pick a giraffe and name if Frank just as his prediction stated.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby M Paul Lloyd » Sep 26th, '09, 07:51

Er... seats? Glue? :? No. sorry. ;)
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby Shadowwolf » Sep 28th, '09, 20:35

He was attempting by subliminal impressions and coaching to leave some of the studio and wider audience incapable of standing up.
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Re: Predicting the lottery numbers...

Postby M Paul Lloyd » Sep 28th, '09, 23:33

Sorry, but I find it hard to trust anyone called Brown these days. :D
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